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Speaker1: Definitely have strong feelings there. Whether or not free
Croatia could be. An interesting proposition that. Let me. Give me a kiss
first. To be politically involved. I don't think I. I like what I'm doing.
And be the good Lord willing. Am I? Right here in this country. I'm not
really interested in regulation other than the fact that they might get a
better life out of it if they talk about trees. In my sense, yes, I wish
they would have this, but I would not work toward that end. What about
Tito? Do you have any feelings about him? Did you know? Think. I'm sure
you've had some history. Very little. Very little on the history. I like
history. I like American history. It's. What do you think they're doing
with your wife? But what I had in school with college. The early part of
his life, he was basically a peasant boy. I understand. And then he became
politically involved in what was then. Espousing communism. And I wasn't in
favor of that at all. And but I could see that where they would want to
overthrow the yoke of a monarchy, where they were held down for so many
centuries. This I could see his way of achieving. His dictatorship. I
question it. But I understand he's done quite a bit since he broke away
from the so-called Stalinism. You know, the idea of being his communistic
tendencies and I understand from what I read in the American newspapers and
from what I read in the. Magazines and things that, you know, that are so
called professional magazines, you know, and things that I've read there
shows that he has made a little bit of progress for his country. He has
brought it up to a so-called industrial kind of industrial country. But
outside of that, has he done anything? I've not been there except what I've
read, so I'd have to take it from what I've read. And I can't judge it in
this. I had to be there and I've never been there except for reading about
it. It's really too.
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Speaker2: Far removed from you.
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Speaker1: I think so.
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Speaker2: Um, does the CSU do you know whether CSU does things in
connection with other Slavic groups?
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Speaker1: And from what I read in the Si, they evidently are trying. Hmm.
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Speaker2: In some cities around the country, they have combined all the
organizations to make one large Slavic group. Do you have any feeling about
whether or not you'd like to see that happen here?
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Speaker1: You're basically. I think our politics in nineteenth-century
Europe should stay where they are, right? Why not become a nice group here
in America and show what we can do for our new my country? I can here, but
I'm talking about the people that adopted it.
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Speaker2: What do you see is the most important historical event for
Croatian, for the Croatian community in Pittsburgh? Is there one particular
event you think is important to.
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Speaker1: The idea of being historical. It's a general term. I don't know
if I.
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Speaker3: The just you.
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Speaker1: Which you can.
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Speaker2: Well, just anything. Any event that might have been very
important to you. Croatians in the Pittsburgh area, uh, could be a
convention. It could be, uh. Election of an officer could.
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Speaker1: Anything that would affect them. I think he's just I mean, my
humble opinion, I think they just went into the mainstream, you know, and
were absorbed. I, I don't recall any basic historical law or convention or
anything like that that, you know, that helped the.
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Speaker2: Does that affect you as a person or a citizen and not just as a
parishioner? I think so, yeah. Uh, is there one person in the Croatian
community that stands out in your mind now or before? In the past year.
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Speaker1: That I had was very influential. Father Benkovac and of course,
Father Boniface. They were two spiritual leaders that I felt that our
people could be proud of being American. The idea of. American.
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Speaker2: Are they both still alive?
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Speaker1: Well, they're better than the fodder. Storage is alive. Would
you spell their names for me, Father? Do you want his first name? First
initial is B. And Keflavik Avoch. And the other one is Barnacle
Jacobillionolan. Be careful. He's retired now, and he just left for Croatia
about a year ago for the bonuses.
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Speaker2: Is he going there to stay?
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Speaker1: He had no choice. He was told by his lawyer to.
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Speaker3: Think that is a.
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Speaker2: Sign back there.
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Speaker1: To retire.
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Speaker2: Then he will stay in the resort with his orders. I don't know.
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Speaker1: What did you say? Come back in the morning.
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Speaker2: That's all the formal questions that I have to ask you. But if
there's anything else you want to talk about, about the fraternity or
anything else that you want to copy now. Yes, I think that's a good idea.
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Speaker3: It's been long over.
