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Brown, Clare, undated, tape 1, side 1

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Right. So you tested testing.

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Speaker1:  Would you please state your name and age? Claire Brown.

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62 years old. Mrs. Brown, could you tell me something about your childhood?
Well, to make it short, I had a.

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Speaker1:  Very pleasant childhood.

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I was raised my mother died when I was quite young, three years old, and my
father raised six children. To obviously a sister and I. We came up the
right way. Where were you.

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Speaker1:  Born and raised?

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Pittsburgh. I was born on Francis Street.

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Speaker1:  How much education have you received? High school education.

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Has it been enough? Not exactly. It was enough right then.

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Speaker1:  But now the way times are. I. How much education do you think a
black woman should have to be successful? I think if she has a mother.

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With a high school, education is quite enough. And some of them don't have
to have. Has religion been an important factor in raising your family? Yes,
it has. And teaching them what I knew about the Bible. Trying to get him to
do what I wanted him to do. But each child has a mind of his own, so you
just have to go from there. What?

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Speaker1:  The sacrifices that you made for your children, the sacrifices
most every mother.

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Makes in raising a family. Doing without for myself so that they could have
and.

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Speaker1:  Staying at home lots of times.

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When I would have rather been out somewhere or go to a show or something.
Cooking, clean and washing, iron and scrubbing. That's all a sacrifice.
Even though you're supposed to do it. How much do you feel a woman should
sacrifice for her children? I feel she should do everything she's supposed
to do because they didn't ask to come here. Name and discuss a few ways in
which religion, self-esteem and family upbringing determine your career. I
think religion, first of all, although now they have changed it so
drastically because some children now don't even. Going. But I think it's
important because there has to be somebody greater than we are and they
have self esteem. You have to have something to look. There's nothing more
important than going. What about the family upbringing that you had? How
does it determine your. Well, it was it was a good upbringing. I didn't
listen sometimes, like the other ones listen. But I didn't have a career,
so. Elsewhere during. Are you a member of any join any adult join club with
active. As an organization member that affected a large number of black
helping to get the different tenants. Taken the. 1153. Have any
organizations for blacks ever made help available to you or anyone in your
family? Helps. Oh, I see. Opportunity. That's. How did they help you? They
helped my son get employment. At least three times, as I can remember. What
changes, if any, occurred in black organizations since World War Two? Do
you know? All right. Thank you. Well, some have become too militant and
they're not helping the black as they were supposed to do in the beginning.
What do you mean by too militant? I think everyone knows what militant
means. But what do you mean by the.

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Speaker1:  Groups that become militant?

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Well, they are more aggressive and they cause a little more trouble than
necessary. And they're not helping their own as they should. What do you
feel is. Most powerful attribute that a.

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Speaker1:  Black woman has.

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If she is really trying to live up to her own standards, I feel that the
most powerful actor that she has is to be black and honest. How do you
think she should use this? And almost everything she does to live up to her
own standards and be proud that she is black. At what point in your life
did you feel a sense of responsibility for other blacks? And I felt a sense
of responsibility ever since I got married and started having children.
Have you. Have you ever attended a church sponsored school? No. What do
you.

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Speaker1:  Recall of your grandparents?

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I'm sorry. I can't remember that. Well, do you think the woman being head
of the household is a good thing or a bad thing? In my opinion, it should
be shared. The man is supposed to be the head of the household. Sometimes
he can't carry his load for illness. N.y.. I think it should be shared.
What about in cases where the man deserts the.

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Speaker1:  Wife, like taking the paycheck and spending it, or, uh, just
just not living up to.

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What his role as head of the household should be. Do you think that that
the woman should take over or do you think that the child needs a father
figure?

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Speaker1:  I think every child needs.

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A father figure. But if it's almost impossible and the father is not living
up to the standards, either get rid of him or take over him. As a proud
black woman.

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Speaker1:  What pieces of your culture or heritage are you leaving with
your with the younger black woman? I'm trying to leave with my.

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Daughters the things that I have tried to live by and the way I've tried to
live. Do you think that it's better for women to work and have a career or
to take welfare.

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Speaker1:  So that she can be with her children? At a certain age. I think
a mother should.

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Be with the children. When the children are able to take care of their
self, when they have someone else to watch them, I think she should work
and be independent. She objected to the image of blacks on the.

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Speaker1:  Television, radio and.

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In the news. No, I don't. How do you choose to determine your own destiny?
I think I have always tried to spend wisely, but. Sometimes you see
something you want that you don't really need. It's only human to get it.
But now I have to curb it because my husband is retired. Do you try to
cater to black businesses? I'm sorry to say, not too much. Don't have too
much dependence on. Much trouble. Do you remember any joint business
ventures by any black organizations, clubs, sororities?

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Speaker1:  And if you do, were they successful? At present, I can't think
of too many.

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Jones Funeral Home is one. Score. In Hit supermarket. I think they were
pretty successful. How much.

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Speaker1:  Education do most.

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Of your friends have? I think most of them are pretty fair education. Not
all of my friends graduated, but still some of them are doing very well.
How does it.

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Speaker1:  Seem to help or hinder the development.

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Of their children? Answer that. I have to go back. My father only had a
fourth grade education, but he could count better than me that graduated
from high school. So, as I say.

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Speaker1:  A child has to.

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Help himself too. You can tell that they need education, and if they want
to get it, they'll get it. If not.

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Speaker1:  I always come back to mother with a parent that has mother with.
Yeah. Tries to help the child and the best way he can.

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Okay. Thank you.