WEBVTT 00:00:01.000 --> 00:00:11.000 Right. So you tested testing. 00:00:11.000 --> 00:00:16.000 Speaker1: Would you please state your name and age? Claire Brown. 00:00:16.000 --> 00:00:27.000 62 years old. Mrs. Brown, could you tell me something about your childhood? Well, to make it short, I had a. 00:00:27.000 --> 00:00:29.000 Speaker1: Very pleasant childhood. 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:46.000 I was raised my mother died when I was quite young, three years old, and my father raised six children. To obviously a sister and I. We came up the right way. Where were you. 00:00:46.000 --> 00:00:48.000 Speaker1: Born and raised? 00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:53.000 Pittsburgh. I was born on Francis Street. 00:00:53.000 --> 00:00:58.000 Speaker1: How much education have you received? High school education. 00:00:58.000 --> 00:01:04.000 Has it been enough? Not exactly. It was enough right then. 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:14.000 Speaker1: But now the way times are. I. How much education do you think a black woman should have to be successful? I think if she has a mother. 00:01:14.000 --> 00:01:44.000 With a high school, education is quite enough. And some of them don't have to have. Has religion been an important factor in raising your family? Yes, it has. And teaching them what I knew about the Bible. Trying to get him to do what I wanted him to do. But each child has a mind of his own, so you just have to go from there. What? 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:50.000 Speaker1: The sacrifices that you made for your children, the sacrifices most every mother. 00:01:50.000 --> 00:02:01.000 Makes in raising a family. Doing without for myself so that they could have and. 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:03.000 Speaker1: Staying at home lots of times. 00:02:03.000 --> 00:05:26.000 When I would have rather been out somewhere or go to a show or something. Cooking, clean and washing, iron and scrubbing. That's all a sacrifice. Even though you're supposed to do it. How much do you feel a woman should sacrifice for her children? I feel she should do everything she's supposed to do because they didn't ask to come here. Name and discuss a few ways in which religion, self-esteem and family upbringing determine your career. I think religion, first of all, although now they have changed it so drastically because some children now don't even. Going. But I think it's important because there has to be somebody greater than we are and they have self esteem. You have to have something to look. There's nothing more important than going. What about the family upbringing that you had? How does it determine your. Well, it was it was a good upbringing. I didn't listen sometimes, like the other ones listen. But I didn't have a career, so. Elsewhere during. Are you a member of any join any adult join club with active. As an organization member that affected a large number of black helping to get the different tenants. Taken the. 1153. Have any organizations for blacks ever made help available to you or anyone in your family? Helps. Oh, I see. Opportunity. That's. How did they help you? They helped my son get employment. At least three times, as I can remember. What changes, if any, occurred in black organizations since World War Two? Do you know? All right. Thank you. Well, some have become too militant and they're not helping the black as they were supposed to do in the beginning. What do you mean by too militant? I think everyone knows what militant means. But what do you mean by the. 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:28.000 Speaker1: Groups that become militant? 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:49.000 Well, they are more aggressive and they cause a little more trouble than necessary. And they're not helping their own as they should. What do you feel is. Most powerful attribute that a. 00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:56.000 Speaker1: Black woman has. 00:05:56.000 --> 00:06:50.000 If she is really trying to live up to her own standards, I feel that the most powerful actor that she has is to be black and honest. How do you think she should use this? And almost everything she does to live up to her own standards and be proud that she is black. At what point in your life did you feel a sense of responsibility for other blacks? And I felt a sense of responsibility ever since I got married and started having children. Have you. Have you ever attended a church sponsored school? No. What do you. 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:58.000 Speaker1: Recall of your grandparents? 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:29.000 I'm sorry. I can't remember that. Well, do you think the woman being head of the household is a good thing or a bad thing? In my opinion, it should be shared. The man is supposed to be the head of the household. Sometimes he can't carry his load for illness. N.y.. I think it should be shared. What about in cases where the man deserts the. 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:35.000 Speaker1: Wife, like taking the paycheck and spending it, or, uh, just just not living up to. 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:47.000 What his role as head of the household should be. Do you think that that the woman should take over or do you think that the child needs a father figure? 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:48.000 Speaker1: I think every child needs. 00:07:48.000 --> 00:08:01.000 A father figure. But if it's almost impossible and the father is not living up to the standards, either get rid of him or take over him. As a proud black woman. 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:11.000 Speaker1: What pieces of your culture or heritage are you leaving with your with the younger black woman? I'm trying to leave with my. 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:26.000 Daughters the things that I have tried to live by and the way I've tried to live. Do you think that it's better for women to work and have a career or to take welfare. 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:32.000 Speaker1: So that she can be with her children? At a certain age. I think a mother should. 00:08:32.000 --> 00:08:46.000 Be with the children. When the children are able to take care of their self, when they have someone else to watch them, I think she should work and be independent. She objected to the image of blacks on the. 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:48.000 Speaker1: Television, radio and. 00:08:48.000 --> 00:10:19.000 In the news. No, I don't. How do you choose to determine your own destiny? I think I have always tried to spend wisely, but. Sometimes you see something you want that you don't really need. It's only human to get it. But now I have to curb it because my husband is retired. Do you try to cater to black businesses? I'm sorry to say, not too much. Don't have too much dependence on. Much trouble. Do you remember any joint business ventures by any black organizations, clubs, sororities? 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:25.000 Speaker1: And if you do, were they successful? At present, I can't think of too many. 00:10:25.000 --> 00:10:51.000 Jones Funeral Home is one. Score. In Hit supermarket. I think they were pretty successful. How much. 00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:52.000 Speaker1: Education do most. 00:10:52.000 --> 00:11:13.000 Of your friends have? I think most of them are pretty fair education. Not all of my friends graduated, but still some of them are doing very well. How does it. 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:15.000 Speaker1: Seem to help or hinder the development. 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:34.000 Of their children? Answer that. I have to go back. My father only had a fourth grade education, but he could count better than me that graduated from high school. So, as I say. 00:11:34.000 --> 00:11:35.000 Speaker1: A child has to. 00:11:35.000 --> 00:11:45.000 Help himself too. You can tell that they need education, and if they want to get it, they'll get it. If not. 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:57.000 Speaker1: I always come back to mother with a parent that has mother with. Yeah. Tries to help the child and the best way he can. 00:11:57.000 --> 00:12:57.000 Okay. Thank you.