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Frances Carey: Great Society. Elaine Weissman: And people belong to that.
Carey: Lanny Davis and my mother and Rachel Cohen, Annie Davis's sister
was. Weissman: Was there any important organization for Jewish people that
made help available for newcomers who came to the city? Carey: Well, the
Tree of Life started after that. My sister was one of the first in in that
show and that. They're a sisterhood. This one I'm talking about.
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Weissman: But was there any Jewish organization that did things for poor
Jewish people or an organization that helped immigrants coming into the
city? Any of that type. Carey: Everybody then helped them like my father
and this and and that. And they went around with the called Clyburn.
Weissman: What's that? Carey: From door to door.
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Weissman: Oh they took to get is that. No they don't. Uh, do many of your
friends now belong to Beth El Synagogue? Carey: All of them. All of them. A
lot of them. The out here at the temple. Emanuel. That was a lot of our.
See, we. You're not putting this down now. It wasn't that they didn't have
room enough for Sunday school and put portables and the children didn't
like that they got sort of, you know, mixed up because they couldn't
understand the portables.
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Carey: And so 75 of them. Oh, there's about I was asked to join. I said
I'd never do that. I'll live and die with Bethel. And they said, Why? It's
not big enough. But now look at the beautiful shore. Oh, it's a gorgeous
shore we have up there on Cochrane Road. Each winter individually
represents a part of the Bible. So gorgeous. It's beautiful. Weissman: Were
you ever a member of the board of Bethel? Carey: I never took anything.
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Carey: That was one thing I always said I would never. Never. I was with
the entertainment committee, though, you know, I put on the shows and
everything. And not long ago, I. I had a musical and I played, but, oh, I
used to. In the old show. We sat in the little kitchen as big as this and
made lokshen kugel and and brisket and potato kugel and. And I did a bad
thing. My son say it now. I gave my pictures to them thinking they'd put
them up in the show. But they, they didn't.
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Carey: They, they had them put away someplace. I'm going to I'm going to
be an Indian giver because, see, we used the women would make the cakes and
we used to go and beat you to the business houses and beg. Cakes and money
and stuff. And in a day I take in 4 or $500. And I when I got to tell you
about that, this is a very interesting and that day we would if you had a
ball mystery I had a bris this that you know everything we would cut the
cakes. We had gorgeous birthday cakes.
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Carey: These pictures. I don't know why I ever gave them to you. I'll get
them back. Sitting all night and cooking. Then the next you went home at
3:00 in the morning. And slept a little while. Now, I said to my George.
Rest his soul. No, I don't think I'm not tired, George. I'm going to get a
bath and get dressed. I want to get back down and help set the tables.
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Weissman: Well, you weren't on. Carey: And we served that one picture. I'm
standing with a white apron. We served. Other people too came. You didn't
pay like that. Do now. All you did was donate and give. Buy these cakes and
everything and. All sitting around. Weissman: You told me you were active
with the USO. Would you like to tell me a few things about that?
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Carey: Yes. I was with them for 45 years. That was all periphery. I went
around to all the bases in Pittsburgh, to all the hospitals. Weissman: This
is World War Two. Carey: World War Two. We went to Oakdale two nights a
week. I was down by the Pennsylvania depot. Remember when. Do you remember
when they had it then? And I played the piano. And I had 45. I had about 55
girls that came. You couldn't be married. You had to live at home. You had
to have a job, and you had to go to some church or synagogue.
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Carey: Well, these boys came from good homes and we wanted. The best. And
I'll show you. Well, I couldn't start to show you. Look at that. And. I got
cartons and cartons. I'd have to take a day. Just. But I'll show you just
some. My son sent me, sent me this. He. And she ain't that cute. Oh. I have
that when I die. There'll be no. Do you know what that means? Not really.
The charity. Oh. I get such beautiful.
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Weissman: Do you remember anything about the Great Depression of the 1930?
Carey: You know I ever. Weissman: Well, what do you remember about the
Depression? Carey: Lots of money in the Monongahela Bank.
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Weissman: Uh huh. What happened to the money?
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Carey: That's just a write up about me. I think it's Harold Cohen had it.
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Weissman: This is the 1959 TV Guide. And there's an article on you.
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Carey: Yeah, but you have to look and look and look to find them, you
know? I wanted to see what this is. I don't have my glasses. I told you.
There. That's how. That's David's. But you want to read.
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Weissman: This is from the city of New York, office of the mayor, and it's
addressed to your son. Because he recorded. Give a damn.
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Carey: He's a very fine he's with all the broadcasting. He does all those
commercials. He plays seven different instruments.
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Weissman: Your son, David Carey. Oh, I see. Oh, and it's signed by Mayor
Lindsay. Yeah. Well, let's talk a little about the Depression. And I'll
look at these a little later. Okay. See, we can. Carey: We got to.
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Carey: Watch the time while I can call her.
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Weissman: Yeah. The Great Depression. You lost your money and your family,
I suppose. Carey: No, I.
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Carey: Didn't lose my family.
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Weissman: No, no, no. The family lost money, too. I was going to say.
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Carey: Well, no, they weren't in that Monongahela Bank. Yeah, this is
just. Well, I have it in my hand. That's some of the birthday names went
on. Uh huh.
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Weissman: Oh, how nice. So--
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Carey: I like to put things back the way I got them. But we just done fine
because my husband was a big money man with the show business, and in the
summer he went away with the operas because he was with the old Schubert
album before he was with Lohse. You know where the Gateway is? Weissman:
Yes. Carey: And he. No, we we were always all right. Weissman: Even
though-- Carey: I always had a very fine home, lived very good. And.
Educated my children. Fine.
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Weissman: How many children do you have?
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Carey: I have three. I have a daughter that lives in the Bronx. She was at
that some of her work. She's a she was a John Pires model, but she didn't
model clothes. She modeled for the artists and now she had two in the
gallery there last week. She does very good. And one of the artists.
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Weissman: What's her married name.
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Carey: Her name is Julia Caruso. And she has three sons. She's a grandma.
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Weissman: And your other children.
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Carey: She was a ballet dancer with the operas here in Pittsburgh before
she was married. And she was. Did you ever. No. You never hear the George
Sharpe players. He done. She done Well, I gave her I took them to her. She
done the real, you know, to make a curio. The Japanese princess she played
the part of of mother in and my sister was the the she her hair was gold
then and she wore a black wig and she she were she was the child in Madame
Butterfly.
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Carey: You know where the soldier, the Japanese girl marries this American
and he couldn't take her to America. And she goes on stage and they say,
oh, da da da da da da da da da. And she puts the American flag and that one
in Sissy's hand, the Japanese. And she, she does that made a made a commit
suicide, you know, and, and Sissy was a little troubled. The name was
trouble of the child. See? And then they they played these short, sharp
pliers and.
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Carey: My children were always in show business. David appeared with Dick
Powell with what was that fellow? Joe Penner? And Ed Lowry in the Stanley.
He used to give impersonations of this this one that's now the musician all
the movie stars and he. He was all over Pittsburgh and then he made up his
mind. And he's a very fine musician.
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Weissman: And the other son.
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Carey: And James is. I told you he's assistant to the vice president with
this. With the Wometco.
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Weissman: And that's in-- Carey: the movie.
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Carey: The movie houses.
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Weissman: And there he lives. What city? Carey: I beg your pardon?
Weissman: Where does he live?
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Carey: He lives his the place of businesses in Miami and he lives in the
moves. Now, where does he. Boy, am I getting a mess. I want to show you
this because my son, David.
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Weissman: Was there anything else about the Depression you wanted to tell
me? Carey: No, there.
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Carey: Wasn't, really. Like I say, he hasn't come home and he said, This
is it. We got. We got it. And he said. Well, we had some we had some money,
too, on the anchor, but nothing like that. So he said, we'll just start all
over again. Nothing to worry about, he said.
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Weissman: Did your family keep any contact with the old country, with the
relatives in Russia or Poland? Carey: No. Weissman: No contact at all. You
belong to Bethel Synagogue.
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Carey: That's right. All my life.
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Weissman: How often do you attend? Carey: Well.
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Carey: Here lately I haven't been because I haven't been over my vacation.
You know, too much. And. And I tell you, since. Since they're really in
Kaufman Road, you have to beg a ride. And I am a. I'm not a person that's
obligated, you know, I never was, but I, uh. I go when I can, you know? But
you have. I am a a very good donor. Anybody, God forbid, dies. And my that
niece, my two nieces just got over being sick and I contribute to the show.
And sometimes $40 in a week.
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Weissman: Do you remember the rabbi's reaction to the World War Two? Did
they encourage Americanization?
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Carey: No, they never got in on that.
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Weissman: They didn't discuss it.
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Carey: Stayed strictly in the Shul. Nothing.
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Weissman: How do you feel about the difference between rabbis Sivitz and
Rabbi Ashinski?
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Carey: Well, now, Sivitz was, I was a very little girl. I didn't know too
much. Only by his name. And that he was a very good and charitable man. I
remember. I wouldn't say that. When his son married the notion of the
Ashinski. Never knew it. No. He married his nurse. She was a gypsy. Oh,
and. We took a very lovely and nobody ever you know, they respected his him
being a rabbi but. And.
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Weissman: Well, what do you, uh. Was there a difference between Sivitz
Sivits and Rabbi Ashinski?
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Carey: Well, I couldn't tell you, dear, because I never, you know, my
father liked since he was, you know, he was his man. This other fella was a
little. Kind of a politician, you know. Weissman: Ashinski. Carey: You're
putting that in and said, well, I'll worry. I wish you wouldn't have.
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Weissman: It doesn't matter.
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Carey: But the other one was, you know. My father's man. Rabbi Ashinsky
were great friends. In fact, the week before he died, a few days, I think
it was, I wasn't there. My mother tells it that my father was so alert. He
said, What are you doing here, Rabbi? And he said, Just came to see. And he
says, Why don't you tell the truth? But he never knew that he came because
he was deathly ill, you know. But.
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Weissman: How did the world.
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Carey: We had a.
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Weissman: How did the--
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Carey: Her home was for everybody that came in. There was always sit down
and have coffee and cake or you'll stay for dinner. There was always full
and plenty. My mother was a marvelous cook. Even when you went down to her
home, there was a little bags of lotion that everybody anybody came in.
Then she died New Year's Day. The night before, George and I had just came
back from New York visiting Cissy. She was going to have her second son. I
brought her a pair of slippers and she says Fay. They always call me Fay.
Why did you bring slippers?
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Carey: Dozens of prayers. She must have had an intuition that something's
going to happen to her. She says, give them to Dovi. He can wear them.
That's my day. But I said, David, don't put five feet in there. He has a
long, narrow foot. And we laughed and talked. My other sister's daughter
came down from over here. Rose wasn't well. She couldn't come. And Mrs.
Cohen, my sister from Beacon Street, came with her daughter. And it was the
funniest thing. And she says, Oh, we're going to have a New Year's Eve
party. And she served. One. She had these beautiful bears, you know, with
the bears won silver. You know, the silver. Oh, and. And I says, I'll help
you, Ma.
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Carey: She said, when you're in your house, you serve. I'm in my house.
Now, listen, she's dead tomorrow. Listen to me. That we all had wine and
cake and were talking. And once you want to know about Sissy, that's my
daughter. We always called her Sissy and she's going on talking and this
and that. The next day she cooked dinner and my sister Maria had buried her
husband and she lived there and she said she miss and she had roast duck in
the oven. She says, Marie, don't get on the telephone and burn up my lovely
dinner. She says, How coming. That means Kafka is even Jewish. Well, you
understand? So that's my sister, Eva. Harder. She was coming for dinner.
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Weissman: Uh huh. How did the World War affect you as a Jewish person?
Remember World War Two?
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Carey: Not nobody. All I was ever called was Carey. Nobody even called me
Mrs. I. I was so highly respected.
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Weissman: World War Two. Carey: Well, that's me.
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Carey: That's when I was in the USO.
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Weissman: Yeah.
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Carey: Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
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Weissman: I became active all. Well, I know you'll show me later. When
we're through, you'll take out the.
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Carey: Yeah. Reminded me.
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Weissman: Yes, I saw the plaque. Yeah. You were active. Did your husband
have to serve, or was he too old for the army?
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Carey: No, he had two children. Weissman: Uh huh. Carey: See, that's for
David was born. So. Sam James.
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Weissman: Do you remember anything else about World War Two?
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Carey: Oh, well, I was right in it. I was affiliated. I just worked all
around Pittsburgh and every place. And then all I could, you know, and we
had a big parade, the USO. And I was in one of the oldest. A little
automobiles that was ever made. Uh, what? What's his name? Had these huge,
big lights on. And when I came down Fifth Avenue, right between Wood Street
and that hat store, it's not there now. Means hat store. And everyone was
hollering. Hi, Carrie. Hi, Carrie. Stood at some went out in the middle of
the street.
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Weissman: Did you ever say-- Carey: I had.
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Carey: I had. Marvelous. Just marvelous. It was just a. Then my husband
died and I stayed with them. See, my husband died in this building. I'm
here 35 years. I had a bigger apartment on the other side, but I had a
serious operation about right after George died. He's dead 20 years.
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Carey: He died on Yom Kippur day. New Brighton, and he was one of the
biggest workers in the show. Nobody ever thought of him as a general. He
never well, he never you know, he went on the road when he was young. His
mother died when he was three years old. And and he went on the road with
Maude Adams. He was with Rod Adams. He was with Bar. He traveled with John
Barrymore in Hamlet. And all a very fine. He was with the Aborn opera. And
with the San Carlo Opera.
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Weissman: Did you?
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Carey: He was a very he was a hard educated man, but he educated himself
reading and traveling. And then his father his father had married again.
And they would put him in different schools and different towns. And he was
a great reader. He was educated that way.
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Weissman: Did you ever save any money with a fraternal organization?
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Carey: Oh, I never took a cent. Everything was.
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Weissman: Did you ever have any insurance with any big organization?
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Carey: Give you any? No. They don't give you any, dear. Everything was
volunteer work. I never made a dime.
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Weissman: And your husband?
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Carey: Not even your transportation? Weissman: Uh huh.
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Weissman: Your husband came from. Was he a native born American? Carey:
Oh, yeah.
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Carey: He was born on the south side. Weissman: Of Pittsburgh.
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Weissman: And where did his family come from?
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Carey: And they came from Scotland. They were what they call Scotch-Irish.
How I got that name. They were driven out of Scotland and they settled in
the north of Ireland. I always said that's how they call them, the
Scotch-Irish. Weissman: Oh.
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Weissman: And how many brothers and sisters?
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Carey: He didn't have any. Only himself.
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Weissman: Did any aspects of the way Americans live come into conflict
with you when you were growing up?
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Carey: No, they always highly respected me. Weissman: For instance.
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Weissman: On Saturday they came and put on the lights or out the lights
going.
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Carey: On. I'd say, Oh, you know, I can't go. That's my Sabbath.
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Weissman: Huh. That was about the only thing that would come in conflict.
Then the fact that you observed the Sabbath. Carey: Yeah. Weissman: You
would say that.
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Carey: And all the high holidays. Oh, yes. You know, if something came up
on Rosh Hashana or Yom Kippur or Suckers or Purim or Pesach. Well, the
first two days I you know the Seders.
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Weissman: Uh, when you were growing up, what group of people did you feel
closest to your own?
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Carey: You mean the different religions?
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Weissman: Yeah. Or nationalities.
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Carey: Yeah, I was very, very non-sectarian. It was immaterial what
religion you were or whether you was poor or rich or we were raised that
money will never buy it. That you have to respect that that girl is a poor
girl. She can't help that, you know. And my mother would give them our
clothes that we wore. You know, that wasn't. Was too small for us and.
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Weissman: And when you were growing up, what group did you feel was most
different from your own?
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Carey: Well, I knew Protestants and Catholics and Lutherans and Italians,
and I just. See, we were raised that it isn't your religion, it's my father
said, If you're good or bad, you can't help it because don't blame it on
the religion. It's the individual. That's the way we were raised.
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Weissman: How does membership in Bethel affect your position in the Jewish
community?
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Carey: You know.
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Carey: He had. The Methodist Sunday School entertained them a few weeks
ago. And the excuse me, not long ago, we had the preacher from the. The
Lutheran church out here. And we all live very much and very lovely. And
they come to us and we go to them, we entertain, we go, you know, after we
serve the Shabbos, you know, cake and coffee and the women serve and they
the women that served and bring it, you know.
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Weissman: And membership then doesn't affect your position in the Jewish
community?
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Carey: No, not a bit.
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Weissman: Has it helped your family in any way?
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Carey: My. You mean my family or. Or the whole family? I see. They all
left. No, there's my nephew. My. My brother in law had the drugstore. I
guess it's. 50 years ago. Well, we'll say 45. Yeah, 50. And he died and his
son runs it. And they all call him Henry for the little ones. Come in.
Everybody's Henry. Well, would.
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Weissman: You say it helps professionally to belong to Bethel?
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Carey: How do you mean professionally?
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Weissman: Well. Can you advance through belonging to Bethel?
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Carey: Well, I belong because I'm a Jewish mother. That's. I don't know
any. Well, tell me, what is this for?
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Weissman: They want to have the history from the individuals who've lived
it. Now, you told me a few things about when you played music at the bar. I
haven't heard about this before. And you didn't? No. No. What class do you
identify with?
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Carey: I can't get that.
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Weissman: What class do you feel you belong to? The working class. The
middle class.
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Carey: The middle class. That's what my father and mother would have said.
We're middle class people. We. We don't want We're not millionaires, but we
don't want. And. We buy anything we want. The best of food. The best of
clothes. And we don't. And around places we don't. I don't entertain
anymore because I live alone and I'm not well enough, you know.
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Weissman: Has membership in Beth El Synagogue affected your position in
the Jewish community?
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Carey: Oh, no, absolutely not. I'm highly respected at my nephew's son's
bar mitzvah. The nuns from this big Catholic hospital in Greentree were all
there, and they said they'll never forget it in their life. The ritual of.
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Weissman: Uh, our members of Bethel upper class that our members of Beth
El Synagogue. Upper class. Or would you say they're middle class?
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Carey: Well are. Well, it varies. See, that's what I that's the word I'd
put. They vary, you know, because I have never rated them, you know, I
don't know what they're rated, but they're very fine. Malabar to see you.
Now, how could I interpret that? Very fine upright.
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Weissman: They're good cooks. I know.
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Carey: No, I wouldn't say they're up. Is that off?
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Weissman: No, it's on.
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Carey: But it won't go till I see. They're very fine. Upright. I want to
use a word there. Courageous. Yeah, they are. They are. They sure are.
Those young women work very, very hard. They certainly work where the old
women left off. There only are about three of us left. When I was. Well,
I'm past down there.
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Weissman: Tell me about the old Irene Kaufmann settlement. Do you remember
anything?
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Carey: I remember the vaguely. I played there a couple of times, but I
don't know. I just didn't. I never was up in that neighborhood.
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Weissman: Anna B. Heldman, did you ever hear of her crusade to clean up
prostitution and gambling in Pittsburgh?
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Carey: Yeah.
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Weissman: You know anything about the red light district in the hill in
the 1920s?
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Carey: Yeah, but. Weissman: Oh, come on. Carey: I don't care to quote it.
Weissman: Well, you.
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Weissman: Knew it was there.
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Carey: Well, it was down on High Street. There was a Jewish woman was the
head of it. What was her name? But she didn't use her own name. But she
was. She was the madam.
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Carey: But.
00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:49.000
Weissman: It existed.
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Carey: We wasn't allowed to go down that street. I know that. Go straight
down Fifth Avenue where you're going. What's wrong with So you know me? I
asked one of the managers one time and he said, Well, I don't think you
want to know. I said, Well, I asked you, you might as well tell me. He
said, It's the red light district. And then I said, I don't know what
you're talking about. And he says, Well, skip it. I said, No, we won't.
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Weissman: Did they really have red lights in the windows?
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Carey: No, that was just an.
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Weissman: Expression.
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Carey: Go by Goldman. I think her name was. No, I'm not sure.
00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:32.000
Weissman: Well, well, the names weren't so anyhow.
00:29:32.000 --> 00:30:05.000
Carey: Yeah. Was something. But one night. I said to Marie, my girlfriend,
let's get the more game where it is now. She said, Francis, you ain't going
to go in the morning and look how dark it is. We ain't going to go down
there. It's dangerous. Weissman: The morgue. Carey: It ain't where it is
not. Was it? Yeah, on Ross Street. Where is it now? I don't know. There was
a fella said. But anyway, we went in there and the first thing we see is
the shucker. You know, shuckers are white when they're dead.
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Weissman: What's a shucker.
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Carey: Oh, don't you? You can't understand? Weissman: A Black person.
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Carey: Yeah. Uh huh. Weissman: No, I didn't know that. They turn white.
