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McIntyre: So a fellow named Dutch Bakery. He had run a second hand store
and was an alderman down here. His son's a policeman here now, Wyczynski,
thats was the real name. Speaker3: His real name was Wyczynski. McIntyre:
And he and I put a campaign on to get a public swimming pool and we got the
butter crust baking and the Smith Brothers Grocery to throw all their
trucks in and we got a lot of candy to give away from some donor and we
staged this big parade and the city council was absolutely terrorized. They
thought it was going to turn into a riot or something. All it was a bunch
of kids after salt water taffy. A lot of the parade was padded out with all
these before, so they capitulated and voted the money to character Bill
Callahan Park up here. And then they named it after the son of a bitch that
had fought tooth and nail. I didn't want either glory or anything like
that. Just want the swimming pool for the kids. But the idea of naming it
after this one guy that absolutely fought it tooth and nail.
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Speaker3: There really isn't anything around here that he hasn't been
involved in in getting. Weitkamp: Uh huh. Speaker3: And of course never had
any credit for it, which he doesn't want any as far as--
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McIntyre: The airport had come to a complete standstill, they were going
to abandon that. And we had a person named Ruth Taylor, who was a personal
friend of ours. She was the largest syndicated columnist in America. You'd
think of Walter Winchell or somebody like that. But she was in all the
labor papers, all the farm papers, all the colored papers, and like that.
She had about 700 papers that she was in. So she was a personal friend of
ours. She was here and she was just leaving. And she said, What can I get
for you? She said, I see Henry Wallace in a week or so. And I said, get the
[inaudible] Alton Airport finished. So they'd given it up as a complete bad
job. And all at once the orders come down to finish them out [inaudible]
Alton Airport. And Sam Hefner and these city officials couldn't figure out
how the hell it come that was gone. There was no hope for it.
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Speaker3: My brother he was city assessor at the time and he knew what was
going on. And the Exchange Club took the boys up and cleaned all the the
stones off of it and like that. Weitkamp: Uh huh.
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McIntyre: We got a train and run them out and let the kids work off their
hostilities by going along and throwing the stones away from the runway,
was an unlimited supply of stones for kids to throw there.
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Weitkamp: Now, when was that? That was uh--
Speaker3: When Henry Wallace was vice president. Weitkamp: Okay. Speaker3:
What year was that?
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McIntyre: Roosevelt was in. Weitkamp: Yeah, right. Weitkamp: Right about
the time of World War Two. It started as a--
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Weitkamp: And then what happened? Was it stalled because of the war?
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McIntyre: Yeah. They figured that the war was going to good to this field
wouldn't be needed. It started as a military field up there. Weitkamp: I
see. Uh huh. McIntyre: Actually, you talk about that, we're talking about
the Depression. I don't think we've been out of the Depression at all. Our
economy, the way I see it, is geared that we've either got to have a war or
a lot of preparations for a war to be prosperous. You take a we're talking
back of after the big smash in 1929 and your banks closing and all that.
That was the big ring out. Then after that, you didn't get prosperity until
World War Two. Then you had the Korean War to hype it up. Weitkamp: That's
right. McIntyre: Then the Vietnam thing and. Weitkamp: The Cold War after
that. McIntyre: and in between, they were getting ready for whatever was
coming. And your your militaristic machine was going full blast all the
time. That's what made it prosperous. Weitkamp: Yeah.
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Speaker3: Well, when Roosevelt went in, of course, you put he put the
people to work on WPA and all that.
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McIntyre: The one day that I remember was the it's a forgotten thing now.
It was thrown out on a technicality. But the Blue Eagle and the minimum
wage of $14 a week. And I can remember the women and the girls were running
from one store to another with arms full of packages. And I met one girl.
She still lives over here and she says, I just bought a refrigerator. We'd
never been able to buy a refrigerator, but I'm getting $6 more a week now.
I can pay on a refrigerator. And that just in one day the country started
buying like that, that blue eagle thing that everybody adhered to. Adelaide
worked in the five and ten here for $7 a week.
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Weitkamp: In 1927, oh no $7 a week in McCarthy's. And I can't tell you how
many hours, probably six days a week and 9 to 9 on Sunday or on Saturdays.
And, uh, I, um, had graduated from high school in June and intend to be a
nurse but my dad got sick so I couldn't leave. And, um, I was going to
Rochester and, uh. Because they needed the money. And that was in 27. Of
course, that was due to illness and. The woman clan that lived on the same
street as I did up on East Avenue, up on the hill. I don't imagine you know
where East Avenue is. It's back of East Main. Weitkamp: Okay. Speaker3:
And, uh, she lived down at one end, and we lived and kind of up probably
ten, 12 houses. She walked into me and she said, uh, how would you like to
go to work for the telephone company? And, uh. I said, Well. All right. How
much did they pay a week? She's said $10 a week. But I was only 17 and I
could work only till I believe 7:00 or ten at night. I couldn't work any
later. Weitkamp: Uh huh. Speaker3: I don't remember exactly what hour it
seemed to me only till seven until I was 18, and I wouldn't be 18 till
January. So, uh, I guess when I went in, I was the only probably girl that
had graduated from high school. All the other ones were older and they
hadn't graduated and like that. And that is when they had the old where the
Veterans of Foreign Wars is today, the old building. And they had as high
as a hundred working there. Oh.
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McIntyre: I had a friend, Salamanca. Right.
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Speaker3: That's when you had your old switchboard?
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Weitkamp: Yes. Uh huh.
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Speaker3: You had a certain switchboard.
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McIntyre: Roy Arena. He was the head of the Fancher Union down there. That
700 union where they made television cabinets and everything and fancy
furniture and. He summed it up, I think, better than the average attitude
of the average worker. When you talk about wages going way sky high and the
cost of living and saying, well, he said, I don't know. He said about
anybody else, he says, but I'd rather make $100 a week and spend $90 a week
to live than I would make $10 a week and spend $9 a week to live that
simple, he said.
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Speaker3: I know another permanent fellow in this town said that he'd
rather pay the $10 a bushel for potatoes. And what this was quite a few
years ago than what we're paying today. On the Depression days. I'm not
going to tell you who he is because you know my minutes. Weitkamp: Yeah.
Uh.
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McIntyre: It's one of the things you can get a good fight going in class
at Pitt, by the way. You have all the people in class and just, you know,
teaching about the depression period in a history course. And invariably
somebody will say Bradford was never hit by the Depression and somebody
else, you know, will fight back. And it all seems to come down to if you
had the money, things were better. If only Martin Hanson, who was on the
Trades Assembly, he was on a lot of committees, very dignified looking guy,
and he'd been quite wealthy. They had a saloon in Cleveland and he lost all
his money in the building and loans and come here and worked as a painter.
And he was so up against it. And he was on this relief committee when they
had the soup kitchen at the armory. And he had to go around to see that the
soup was all right. And he said, Jesus, he never grabbed a bowl and pitched
in. He was so hungry [laughter].
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Speaker3: I had an uncle who couldn't get a job. And, uh, he used to go to
the soup kitchen, and, uh, a nephew of mine, uh, was young at that time. He
was out in California now, would go to the soup kitchen with him.
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McIntyre: His nephews, he's the assistant superintendent of schools in Los
Angeles County now.
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Speaker3: Yeah, he's a doctor. He's going to run for office,
commissioner.
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McIntyre: He's going to run for commissioner of education in California.
He got the backing.
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Speaker3 : Of the county, but, um. Or for the state of California.
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McIntyre: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker3: He's gone in the administrative school.
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McIntyre: I believe that there's a certain truth. There was a reservoir of
wealthy families here that did a lot of private charity and like that. But
there was some. Some real rugged times, too, especially when the banks
closed, that was. There was people that were worth money like that. They
didn't have any cash. Weitkamp: Yeah.
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Speaker3: Well, your mother and father didn't have too much trouble
because in 1929, your grandmother died and left a pretty good, sizable
insurance policy. McIntyre: Well.
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McIntyre: It was about 5000. Speaker3: Yeah.
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Speaker3: And, uh, of course, that would be, like 50,000 today. And when
Marty and I got married in 1930, why I was still working at the telephone
office. They had switched to the dial, and I moved over with the dial
system. And, uh, uh, I was giving my family $5 a week to help them out. And
so we went to live with his mother, wanted me to come down there and live
with them and, uh, but still give my family $5 a week. Weitkamp: Mhm.
Speaker3: And my brother and his wife. And at that time.
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McIntyre: That was the way of life. Everybody doubled up, you see.
Weitkamp: Uh huh.
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Speaker3: And, uh, let's see. Dick was born in 27, so they had two
children at that. And the third one was born a little later. That's Marilyn
Horne, the actress singer. Oh.
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McIntyre: He used to work collecting for the people's store, KB store of
the clothing, credit and clothing store here. His wife was the cashier and
like that. It the most miserable job you ever saw. He had to go down in all
these coal mining little towns down around Ridgeway and Degas mines down in
there and like that and collect for these damn accounts, you know, $7 or
$18 or whatever it was, like that. He had an old Ford and had to drive down
there and half time he wouldn't get back till 8 or 9:00 at night and fight
with these people on their account. Oh, God, what a job.
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Weitkamp: Was there more paternalism you the word you used before in this
area in terms of the various companies and factories not laying people
off?
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McIntyre: Blaisdell. Of course, that's just the way of life with him. But
the other companies weren't like that. No, you're good. In fact, one of the
heads of Dresser's one time, Iwas trying to organize it, and they run me
out of there and tell you I had to help him. And he was Pat Costello, the
kid, that city controller here now. And he was I paying him a dollar to
help me pass the handbills and come out. And I went up to the corner store
and got my phone. I called up this guy that was the head of dresser i
forget what the hell his name is now. And I've got a right to pass those
handbills out there. I said, That's a law of the land. I'm in the public
street. I'm not on your property or anything like that. He said, You're
right. You've got a right to pass it, so I'm going to send a chair out for
you. So he sent the chair from his office. I sat in his chair and saying.
Here's a picture I'm kind of proud of and won't see it too often.
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Speaker3: Just don't look at this dirty house. I don't have help and.
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McIntyre: The guy tried to stop it, you know, and. Right. Don't send me
that paper anymore. But I was in the labour movement for about 40 years and
had the racketeers on one side and the commies on the other. And I worked
with an old fella named Bob Warner from down in York, Pennsylvania. He was
on the AFL staff too, and we used to work together a lot. And somehow by
dint of he and Ruth Taylor I was telling you about, I managed to walk a
line right between the two and I didn't get too involved. See, we didn't
have too much CIO in here. We kept the CIO almost entirely out of here.
Weitkamp: I see. McIntyre: Until the mortgages George Meany called it. And
then afterwards, of course, everybody's friends now but. Weitkamp: Yeah.
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Speaker3: I said Ruth said was seeing commies under the bed. I didn't
believe there was that many around until later. She knew more, a lot more.
She was in lived in New York City at the time and uh, she knew more about
than I did. But I always laughed at her.
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Weitkamp: My oldest brother was a writer for the New York Post, and, uh,
in fact, he was the representative of the Post,what is it called. McIntyre:
The Guild? Weitkamp: To the Newspaper Guild and I. He's a good deal. Or
he's dead now. He's dead. But I remember him talking about the fact that
when everybody else had to go to file their stories that the communists
would stay and put through their resolutions. McIntyre: Yeah. Weitkamp: You
know after everybody else had--
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McIntyre: Oh, yeah, they had--
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Weitkamp: There was a running fight between--
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McIntyre: They had a record technique. They had what they called a diamond
plan. They said they'd only have four in a meeting. There'd be maybe 90 or
100 people in the union meeting, but they'd have one in the back, one on
each side and one in the front. And those four could make it sound like
there was 50 people hollering for a resolution or something like that.
Weitkamp: Uh huh. Yeah. Yeah. McIntyre: Oh, they were really something.
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Weitkamp: So what the Democrats any more successful during the 30s during
the Roosevelt years in politics in this area. You know you say you tried to
organize the Democratic Party, get it going.
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McIntyre: And we kept adding, uh, uh, registrations. One time we put on a
drive, I got about 15, 20,000 out of the Fifth Ward. We registered 550
Democrats out of the Fifth Ward. That was just the margin that Mayor Ryan
got elected by. Weitkamp: Uh huh. McIntyre: But as far as electing them for
county office, forget it. The only time that they ever elected anybody for
county office was that this Peterson I was telling you about. He was a shoo
in. He was going to get a job, Prothonotary or something over Smethport.
And there was an old guy. That's John Polly that was on the city council.
He and he ran the oddfellows and like that. And he was the power in
Republican politics. And Peterson marched in and clicked his heels and
said, The first thing I do after I'm elected, I'm going to fire her. And it
just happened to be Polly's girlfriend. So they turned the whole Republican
machine around. Every fat old Republican woman that used to work and plug
the lines so the working people couldn't work after, couldn't vote after
they come from work like that. They all worked for the Democrat. And this
guy and a guy named Harrington was elected. He didn't know what happened.
He was a lightning struck him. He always thought he would elect a nice
personality, but it wasn't. Peterson picked on Polly's girlfriend and they
turned the whole machine around.
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Weitkamp: When organizations like the WPA were were in operation or, say,
the CCC and so forth, how was the patronage handled for those kinds of
organizations?
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McIntyre: So far as I know, the CCC there was no patronage, especially
they had difficulty finding qualified people to to run these camps and like
that. Now, this Roy Arena, I was just telling you about, that's how he came
to Salamanca. He was from Yonkers. The kids were standing on the street.
They brought him to a CCC camp up outside of Salamanca. And he got
acquainted with they come into town and meet the town girls and like that.
And he married this girl and went to work in the furniture factory there.
But there was very little politics in the CCC. WPA. Yes, the administrative
jobs were political, there's no question about that. But it was run, as far
as I know, decently. In other words, when you come and you were down and
out and wanted to get on, it wasn't any difference whether you were a
Republican or a Democrat or anything. Weitkamp: Yeah.
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Weitkamp: What were the projects in Bradford? The WPA project?
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McIntyre: Oh God, they had dozens of them. Painting schools and painting
up things and generally refurbishing the town, if you know what I mean.
Weitkamp: Uh huh.
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Weitkamp: Well, was the, uh, the pool, was that a WPA project? But there
is a plaque in the pool house and I thought it was WPA.
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McIntyre: Well, there might be tennis courts or something around there,
but there was probably government money in the in the financing of the pool
and like that. But I as I remember, it wasn't pure. It wasn't a, you know,
in other words, it was after the the height of the WPA projects. Weitkamp:
I see. McIntyre: We just we even built the SPCA down here. There was no dog
shelter here. And my son and his wife, they got the money and got the
grants and everything and built the thing. And then because they put in an
asphyxiation chamber where we all quit it. Hm. See, he works for Channel
four and he's the courier correspondent here. Weitkamp: I see. McIntyre:
But he ran the paper for a while, but his wife got sick, and they had her
down in Houston for three trips with heart trouble. And I was down there
and had to have an aneurysm of the Irota. That the operation where they put
the dacron tubes in your arteries, you know? And, uh, so that's when the
paper ran out of existence.
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Weitkamp: What year was that? This is 73.
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McIntyre: About 1971. It was, that I had my operation.
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Speaker3: Thats that last issue.
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Speaker3: Uh huh, yeah, 71. And then in April 71, he went down.
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Weitkamp: Is this the end of the paper?
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McIntyre: Just about.
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Weitkamp: The last issue, September 73.
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Speaker3: They've been going to put out more, but it's, uh. The prices
have gone up so high.
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McIntyre: Every time the printers get a raise at the air we were printing
at the era first we printed over at the McKeen Democrat over at Smethport
helped Satterwhite and the Unholy three, as I call them, pay for that.
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Speaker3: And first year with the Bradford Printing Company.
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McIntyre: Yeah, I told them about that. Weitkamp: Uh huh. McIntyre: But
then we brought it back and they transferred the Democrat plant back to the
area. And the fellow named Harold Lindquist, he worked in our paper mostly,
and every time the printers would get a raise, why, they'd raise the price
of our paper. That was the only way of hitting back. And so every time
they'd double the price of the printing, why, I'd have the frequency so
that we ended up with first with a weekly and then ended up with a
monthly.
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Weitkamp: I see.
Speaker3: Well, the fellow that made up the paper, he retired but took
care of it all. Weitkamp: Uh huh. Speaker3: And when he retired, they
wanted us out of there.
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McIntyre: You see, when I was working for the AFL, then I didn't explain
to you. But later I went on as an international representative for the
Carpenters, which doesn't sound like a promotion, but it was because it's a
better job, more money and just handling industrial plants, furniture
plants. And so I was on the road practically all the time. I started out
every Monday morning. And I'd write the paper and clip stuff and everything
like that and send it in. This this fella would would put it together down
there and send it in on the back of envelopes and every goddamn thing. He
was about the only one could, could read my scribbling and stuff.
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Speaker3: But I was always here to run--
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Weitkamp: Were you the only one, really, who put the paper together in
terms of what was in it?
Speaker3: Oh yeah they used to pick up the jokes in the union paper all
the time. And of course, they give the paper credit. Weitkamp: Uh huh.
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McIntyre: We had to do a lot of honorary editors and everything like that,
and I found time to write articles for magazines, paint pictures, and even
play a little bridge. That was the fourth thing that damn monster
alongside. He could come along the TV.
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Speaker3: You said you wrote articles for the Reader's Digest. McIntyre:
Oh, yeah, yeah.
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McIntyre: Started, they had some article in about bricklayers limiting
their amount of brick that could be laid in a day. And I wrote it in a nice
way and told them what a fallacy it was. And Steve Wood Wallace, he wrote
back and he said, If you didn't be able to write, write, write up what you
said in an article. And so. Oh, I must've had about 20 articles in
altogether, large and small. Oh, and a lot of others. A lot of other
articles, but a lot of other.
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McIntyre: Well they used to pick up the jokes in the union paper.
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Speaker3: Oh yeah they used to pick up the jokes in the union paper all
the time. And of course, they give the paper credit. Weitkamp: Uh huh.
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McIntyre: We were out the wider by Congress street and as the trucks come
along to flag them down and stand up and talk to them on the cab, you know,
tell them the advantages of belonging to the union and if they're going to
drive all over the country and everything. So no threats involved or
anything. Most of them we knew and evidently some of them wanted to join,
but they wanted to make it appear to Edwards that they were being forced
into it. And he called me up and he says, What's the idea of forcing my
people to join the union at the point of a machine gun? What are you
talking about? Another time, Fitzpatrick and Weller over in Ellicottville
Oh, he was a crusty old bastard who was head of the Republican Party for a
hundred years in Cattaraugus County. And I went up and a kid named Murphy
was with me and he had two boys about ten, 11 years old. And somebody said,
McIntyre is in town. He's got some Chicago gangsters with him with machine
guns. What the hell is this all about? And I looked in the back of his car
and the kids had on these plastic submachine guns, you know, that you buy
and the five and ten, and they land on the back of the car and somebody
walk by and looked at it. That's the way some of those things get started.
Weitkamp: Yeah.
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McIntyre: But they drove it out of the oil fields. The union they had a
couple of stooges, stool pigeons inside the union, you know, and they
wrecked it pretty well. And gradually the thing tapered down to some. Some
tried to keep it going down and next to nothing. Then the candle down here,
they had a hell of a strike and it went on for years and some of the
fellows never got back. And. Jerry Benjamin, he was a visiting the
bricklayers. He had about 50,000 stickers printed, put on the inside of
your gas tank cap, you know, put in anything but candle. And those things
were all over the country. They had him crazy. Your patron saint out there.
Jb Fisher He's one of the satcoms of the oh, what a character he was.
Weitkamp: Uh huh. McIntyre: He never hire a Jew, you know? And now the
Kendalls sold the Jews, but they still haven't heard anything I know of.
Weitkamp: Yeah.
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Weitkamp: Was there a kind of exclusion policy in the oil fields in terms
of hiring people? You mean like the Italians, for instance? Did they get
hired?
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McIntyre: They got hired to dig the ditches.
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Weitkamp: They dig the ditches? Yeah.
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McIntyre: In fact, I had an old uncle one time and he he was a tannery
worker, but he'd hire out when he was between drunks or something on the
ditch. And, uh, so they made an Italian foreman of the ditch digging crew.
And the priest come along and he said, Tom Gorman down in the with about
70. And he could wear out a whole football team digging ditch. You know, he
knew how to do it. And he said, Hello, Tom. He says, How do you like your
dago boss. Tom says, fine. How do you like yours? But there was a lot of
subcontracter that would would contract to hire, uh, to put in pipelines
and dig the ditches like that. And they would go out and hire all other
countrymen. And that was the way the Italians worked in the oil fields. But
very few of the pumpers were anything but wasps, you know?
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Weitkamp: Yeah.
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McIntyre: In fact, how they told you about the opera singer? She married a
colored fella, of course. And on her mother's side. Why? They were all oil
workers out to Derek sitting like that. And I said, Jeez, you could hear
those Klux Klan sheets being torn into all the way up that valley when that
happened. Weitkamp: Yeah.
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Weitkamp: Do you remember the Klan?
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McIntyre: Oh yeah. We drove down Jackson Avenue and he had an open car
with huckleberry pies. We'd throw throw them in the, in fact, my father
organized the, he and another fellow were around the Elks Club, and they
called Herrin, Illinois, which is one of the toughest towns in the country.
They called the Elks Club out there, and they wanted a tough organizer to
come in here to organize something to fight the Klan. So they sent in a guy
named Jack Douglas or something. Oh, he was a Bearcat. And they had mass
meetings out here and Otto Lewis run, you know, and everybody signed up.
Everybody was Catholic or Italian or anything like that. And the Klan would
have parades. As I told you, we drove through the parade and throwing
huckleberry pies at the thing. Oh, yeah, the Klan was potent around here.
Weitkamp: Uh huh. McIntyre: Not only around here, but all through the
country.
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Weitkamp: Yeah.
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McIntyre: She had some. It's hard to explain, but the they hate to see the
ethnic groups coming up. I mean, they should stay in their place. That was
what was the thinking behind the Klan. They got a lot of working guys.
Weitkamp: Yeah. McIntyre: They didn't want them in the factories and like
that. One time there was a fellow named Lawrence Dana. Lawrence Dana was
running for county commissioner on the Democratic ticket and some of the
Democratic workers thought that if they burned a cross up on the Mount Rob
there, that that would make all the Catholics veritable about the cross
being burned against the Catholic candidate, and they'd rush to the polls
and vote for him. So they went up to burn the cross. They built this cross
and wrapped it in burlap and got some oil and soaked it managed to soak
themselves. When they set the cross on fire, they caught on fire and they
rolled all the way down the hill. And they were the two of the serious
looking guys you ever saw in the Democratic headquarters. And I don't think
the thing changed a vote at all. Their Machiavellian.
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Weitkamp: How do you, did you get along with the era? Over the years?
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McIntyre: Well. [inaudible] close friends and have been for years and
[inaudible] hes terrorized on me but we're friends.
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McIntyre: Joe Cleria. Of course, we brought him back here and got him the
job with the radio station. And he'd been working for Ford Motor up in
Buffalo during World War Two. And, uh, he the greatest whispering artist in
the world, if you know what I mean. And now he's getting it all back in
spades. All the son in laws and cousins and everybody else are working in
there, and he's leading a like, a rag doll, and I'm just laughing. The Bob
Browning. Do you know him?
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Speaker3: I have just met him once or twice.
